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		<title>Submissive Women vs. Assertive Women &#8211; Which is Better?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would you rather be an obedient woman or an assertive woman? Would you rather have a relationship with an obedient woman or an assertive woman? Obedience vs. assertiveness - Which of these roles, do you think, is more suited for the modern woman.]]></description>
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<p><em>Would you rather be an assertive woman or an obedient woman?</em></p>
<p><em>Would you rather have a relationship with an assertive woman or an obedient woman?</em></p>
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<p>In most cultures, assertiveness is valued a lot more than obedience. This is certainly true with men. Obedient men are usually considered weak or womanly.</p>
<p>When it comes to women, however, things become less clear.</p>
<div id='11028' class='wp-caption frame3 aligncenter' style='width:520px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:520px'><img src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-520x520.jpg" alt="Assertive woman holding a sword and standing over obedient woman sitting on the floor." width="520" height="520" class="size-large wp-image-11028" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-520x520.jpg 520w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-150x150.jpg 150w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-280x280.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-48x48.jpg 48w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-460x460.jpg 460w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-220x220.jpg 220w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-54x54.jpg 54w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-32x32.jpg 32w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1-96x96.jpg 96w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive1.jpg 672w" sizes="(max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Obedient Women vs. Assertive Women &#8211; Which is Better?<br />Source: <a href="http://shibashake.com/blog-art/images/assertive-submissive">Assertive or Submissive</a></div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
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<h2>Obedient Women, Culture, and Religion</h2>
<p>Many Eastern cultures value obedient women a lot more than assertive women.</p>
<p>However, obedience in this case is more of an expectation or societal norm, rather than a choice. Obedience is not seen as an<a href="http://chataboutyou.com/attractive-women-survey"><em>attractive</em> quality</a> that everyone should aspire to; certainly the men do not aspire to it. Instead, it is something that a good woman should be.</p>
<p>Western cultures have the same bias with regards to <strong>assertiveness being better than obedience</strong>, but there is less pressure for women to be obedient. Strangely however, Western religions, in particular Christianity and Judaism have similar expectations of obedience from women as do Eastern cultures.</p>
<p>Even more surprising is that Eastern religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism are more in step with Western culture, and do not demand obedience from their women.</p>
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<h2>Assertive vs. Obedient</h2>
<div id='11029' class='wp-caption frame3 alignright' style='width:280px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:280px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive2b-280x417.jpg" alt="Obedient woman in pigtails sitting on the floor." width="280" height="417" class="size-medium wp-image-11029" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive2b-280x417.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive2b-436x650.jpg 436w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive2b-308x460.jpg 308w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive2b-147x220.jpg 147w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive2b.jpg 470w" sizes="(max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Many Eastern cultures value obedient women a lot more than assertive women.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
<p>Being assertive is a more valued property than obedience because evolutionary wise, assertive societies are more successful.</p>
<p>Assertive societies with strong leaders tend to gain more territory, capture more resources, and spread more of their culture than obedient or passive societies, which are more likely to become conquered.</p>
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<p><em>As a result, our prevailing culture, is one that values being assertive over being obedient.</em></p>
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<p>Assertive men and women are more likely to acquire and accumulate more resources than obedient men and women. Since evolutionary success is commonly used as a yardstick for measuring our lifetime success, it is the assertive people who <em>win</em>.</p>
<div id='11030' class='wp-caption frame3 aligncenter' style='width:520px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:520px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive3-520x356.jpg" alt="Obedient woman lying down on the floor, assertive woman poised above her." width="520" height="356" class="size-large wp-image-11030" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive3-520x356.jpg 520w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive3-280x192.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive3-460x315.jpg 460w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive3-220x150.jpg 220w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive3.jpg 1020w" sizes="(max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Assertive women vs. obedient women.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
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<h2>Is an Assertive Woman Superior to an Obedient Woman?</h2>
<div id='11031' class='wp-caption frame3 alignright' style='width:280px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:280px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive5b-280x353.jpg" alt="Assertive woman standing and holding a sword to the neck of an obedient woman who is sitting." width="280" height="353" class="size-medium wp-image-11031" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive5b-280x353.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive5b-514x650.jpg 514w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive5b-174x220.jpg 174w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive5b.jpg 553w" sizes="(max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Are assertive women superior to obedient women?</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
<p>Because of this evolutionary perspective, many of us see assertive women as being superior to obedient women.</p>
<p>However, human society has progressed beyond this evolutionary directive that is fueled by conflict and survival. Today, we live in <em>relative</em>peace, and most nations no longer harbor ambitions of land expansion and conquest. Instead, nations try to cooperate and trade for the betterment of all.</p>
<p>Since we are moving away from a model of conflict to a model of cooperation, it makes sense to <strong>re-evaluate the roles of assertive women and obedient women in our society</strong>.</p>
<div id='11032' class='wp-caption frame3 aligncenter' style='width:520px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:520px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive10b-520x478.jpg" alt="Obedient woman surrounded by emoticon people." width="520" height="478" class="size-large wp-image-11032" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive10b-520x478.jpg 520w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive10b-280x257.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive10b-460x423.jpg 460w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive10b-220x202.jpg 220w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive10b.jpg 760w" sizes="(max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Advantages of Obedient Women.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
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<h2>Advantages of Obedient Women</h2>
<p><strong>1. Obedient women have a larger social circle</strong>.</p>
<p>Obedient women tend to have a larger circle of friends. They are less threatening, and much more enjoyable as companions because they are willing to go with the flow. In contrast, an assertive woman will create more strife and dissension.</p>
<p>As a result, obedient women have a larger support system, and are arguably happier because of the friendships that they naturally attract. Whenever there is a crisis, she can easily turn to her friends for comfort and support.</p>
<p><strong>2. Obedient Women are compatible with more men</strong>.</p>
<p>Our prevailing culture is such that men are expected to lead and women are expected to follow. This usually gets enforced since childhood from <a href="http://chataboutyou.com/childhood-stories-good-bad-for-girls">children stories</a>, school dynamics, as well as parental and societal expectations.</p>
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<p><em>As a result, there are probably more assertive men, than there are obedient men.</em></p>
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<p>Obedient women can get along with both types of men. Most obedient women prefer relationships with assertive men because they will complement each other&#8217;s strengths and weaknesses. However, because they are more easy going, obedient women can also forge successful relationships with more obedient men.</p>
<p>Assertive women, on the other hand, are likely to clash with assertive men, and as a result, have a smaller number of compatible mates to choose from.</p>
<div id='11033' class='wp-caption frame3 alignright' style='width:280px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:280px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive7b-280x447.jpg" alt="Obedient woman skipping and looking carefree." width="280" height="447" class="size-medium wp-image-11033" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive7b-280x447.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive7b-406x650.jpg 406w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive7b-137x220.jpg 137w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive7b.jpg 437w" sizes="(max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>An obedient woman has a natural Zen-like quality which makes her life more worry free and happy.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
<p><strong>3. Obedient women live a life with fewer conflicts</strong>.</p>
<p>Obedient women have a Zen-like nature. For the most part, they are happy to let others set the agenda, and they are happy to play a role in making that agenda a success.</p>
<p>This does not mean that the obedient woman will just take on a supporting role. In fact, she may assume the bulk of the heavy lifting to ensure that the plan succeeds.</p>
<p>An obedient woman prefers to take things as they come rather than try to bend things to her will. This natural Zen-like quality makes her life more worry free, and frequently leads to greater happiness.</p>
<p>However, as pointed out by<a href="http://cindyvine.hubpages.com/_srec">cindyvine</a>, this assumes that both people in the relationship care enough for each other that they want to keep mutual hurt to a minimum.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, if an obedient woman enters into a relationship with a self-centered male, who is also abusive, then she may find herself trapped under his barrage of attacks, with little alternative but to accept it.</p>
<p>In contrast a more assertive woman would have ended the <a href="http://chataboutyou.com/what-is-a-bad-relationship">bad relationship</a> early on and saved herself a lot of pain.</p>
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<p><strong>4. Obedient women are able to live in greater harmony with the world</strong>.</p>
<p>Obedient women are usually better at resolving conflicts and living in harmony with the people around them.</p>
<p>In life, there will be many instances where conflict occurs. During times of conflict, somebody has to back down and take a more passive position. If this does not occur, the conflict will escalate and end up hurting everyone involved.</p>
<p>Opting to back away from a possibly explosive situation does not make an obedient woman weak. Rather, it is the most expeditious way to bring the conflict to an end and restore harmony with the least amount of emotional damage.</p>
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<p><em>It is a mistake to assume that obedient women do not have any needs or goals of their own.</em></p>
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<p>They simply value harmony over conflict and are willing to put their own egos on hold to achieve that harmony.</p>
<div id='11034' class='wp-caption frame3 aligncenter' style='width:520px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:520px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive13-520x356.jpg" alt="Obedient woman surrounded by animals." width="520" height="356" class="size-large wp-image-11034" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive13-520x356.jpg 520w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive13-280x192.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive13-460x315.jpg 460w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive13-220x150.jpg 220w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/submissive13.jpg 1020w" sizes="(max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Obedient women are able to live in greater harmony with the world.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
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<h2>Advantages of Assertive Women</h2>
<p><strong>1. Assertive women are more successful at accumulating resources</strong>.</p>
<div id='11035' class='wp-caption frame3 alignright' style='width:270px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:270px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant6b-270x450.jpg" alt="Close-up of assertive woman wearing Kabuki make-up. " width="270" height="450" class="size-medium wp-image-11035" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant6b-270x450.jpg 270w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant6b-390x650.jpg 390w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant6b-276x460.jpg 276w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant6b-132x220.jpg 132w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant6b.jpg 421w" sizes="(max-width: 270px) 100vw, 270px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Advantages of Assertive Women.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
<p>Assertive women are better at accumulating resources including money, fame, and material goods. There is a lot of competition for resources, so it takes an assertive personality to not only acquire those resources, but also to hold on to them.</p>
<p>Assertive women tend to hold high-powered jobs, and are comfortable leading large teams of men and women towards their vision of what is right.</p>
<p><strong>2. Assertive women are more likely to bring on change</strong>.</p>
<p>Assertive women have their own vision of how things ought to be. They are also willing and able to do whatever it takes to achieve that vision.</p>
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<p>When an assertive woman disagrees with current societal norms, she will not back down or be held back by criticism. Instead, she has the confidence and spirit to forge ahead and fight for change.</p>
<p>In the end, assertive women have done much to create a less repressive social environment for women everywhere. It is a good thing that we have women who will speak out for themselves and for all other women.</p>
<p><strong>3. Assertive women are confident and sure of themselves</strong>.</p>
<p>Assertive women do not look to others for confirmation and approval. They are less concerned about what others think and want, and more concerned about their own needs and goals.</p>
<p><strong>Confidence begets more confidence</strong>.</p>
<p>As a result, assertive women are able to fight through great adversity, and emerge with greater strength than before.</p>
<div id='11036' class='wp-caption frame3 aligncenter' style='width:520px' ><div class='shiba-outer shiba-gallery' ><div class='shiba-stage' style='width:520px'><img loading="lazy" src="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant7b-520x472.jpg" alt="Assertive woman turned to the back with black hair flying and holding a sword straight-up." width="520" height="472" class="size-large wp-image-11036" srcset="https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant7b-520x472.jpg 520w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant7b-280x254.jpg 280w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant7b-460x418.jpg 460w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant7b-220x199.jpg 220w, https://cdn.chataboutyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dominant7b.jpg 769w" sizes="(max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px" /><div class='wp-caption-text shiba-caption'>Assertive women are confident and sure of themselves.</div></div> <!-- End shiba-stage --></div></div>
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<h2>Assertive Women vs. Obedient Women</h2>
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<p>So which is better &#8211; assertive women or obedient women? Which should you aspire to be? Or which should you look for in a relationship?</p>
<p>Most women are not one or the other. They usually have elements of both. However, their temperament, upbringing, and experiences may push them towards one end or the other.</p>
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<p>As with all things, balance is crucial. We do not want to be <em>too assertive</em>and not give way when we should. We also do not want to be <em>too obedient</em> so that none of our own needs and goals are met.</p>
<p>Every individual has a different equilibrium assertive/obedient level, and this level may change as we change and the people around us change.</p>
<p>What is most important is to always be open to <em>both</em> of these qualities, and not just accept the flawed belief that being assertive is always superior.</p>
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